Wednesday, 18 December 2024

Building a system for International Rugby League rankings

It seems every time the International Rugby League releases its updated International Rankings, people are mystified as to how some sides rank higher than others and more importantly, how the whole thing is even calculated.

It made me wonder if there's a mathematical system one could use to try and rank teams, so I decided to have a go at it. I will get this one statement out of the way early though - I don't think this system is good either, but one thing that is certain is that no system using a mathematical formula will work.

That's because there's been very little structure or purpose behind every match. So you will find some Emerging nations are playing nearly as many Senior International Matches as Australia, New Zealand and England. The attempts by the International Rugby League in more recent seasons to have teams playing Internationals that will affect their ranking, and determine their qualification in the upcoming World Cup is a major step in rectifying this matter.

So this bit of work is based on all International matches between two International sides (so games like Australia's PM XIII v the Papua New Guinea PM XIII are not included) and for all results over the last 10 years (2015-2024). Also, the Great Britain results are added to England, while Tonga Invitational and Tonga are combined.

There are three groups.

Group A - 10 teams - These are the 10 sides who have played in all of the last 5 World Cups:
Australia
England
Fiji
France
Ireland
New Zealand
Papua New Guinea
Samoa
Scotland
Tonga 

Group B - 10 teams - These are the next 7 teams who have appeared in the most World Cups since 2008:
Cook Islands
Greece
Italy
Jamaica
Lebanon
USA
Wales

And, the 3 remaining teams in the International Rugby League's top 20 ranked teams not already listed:
Malta
Netherlands
Serbia

Group C - 42 teams - Literally every other nation that has played International Rugby League since 2015:
Albania
Argentina
Belgium
Bosnia & Herzegovina
Brazil
Bulgaria
Burundi
Cameroon
Canada
Chile
Colombia
Czech Republic
Democratic Republic of Congo
Denmark
El Salvador
Germany
Ghana
Hong Kong
Hungary
India
Japan
Kenya
Latvia
Montenegro
Morocco
Nigeria
Niue
North Macedonia
Norway
Peru
Philippines
Poland
Russia
Solomon Islands
South Africa
Spain
Sweden
Thailand
Turkiye
Ukraine
Uruguay
Vanuatu

Group D - 1 team - Estonia - Purely because they still appear on the International Rugby League rankings list despite having not played a game since 2009:
Estonia

POINTS SYSTEM
There's a lot to go through here.

World Cup
The Number of World Cups participated in from (and including) 2000-2024 is multiplied by 2.5
Extra Points are awarded for more recent World Cup appearances
2022 RLWC = 10 Points
2017 RLWC = 7 Points
2013 RLWC = 5 Points
2008 RLWC = 3 Points
2000 RLWC = 1 Point

World Cup Results
Teams will earn points based on their performance in the World Cup after the Group stages

Eliminated in First round of play-offs = 3 Points
Eliminated in Semi Finals (Final 4) = 6 Points
Runners-Up = 12 Points
World Cup Winner = 25 Points

Emerging Nations World Cup

The Number of Emerging Nations World Cups participated in from (and including) 2000-2024 is multiplied by 1.5
Extra Points are awarded for more recent Emerging Nations World Cup appearances.
2018 ENWC = 2 Points
2000 RLWC = 1 Point

Group Bonus
Bonus Points awarded based on the group a team is in:
Group A = 200 Points
Group B = 125 Points
Group C = 50 Points
Group D = 0 Points

Now we get to the tricky stuff.

Graded Performances
Teams earn points for wins, lose points for losses and these points are on a sliding scale depending on the strength of their opponent:

Group A def Group A = 3 Points
Group A def Group B = 1.5 Points
Group A def Group C = 0.5 Points

Group B def Group A = 4 Points
Group B def Group B = 2 Points
Group B def Group C = 1 Point

Group C def Group A = 5 Points
Group C def Group B = 3 Points
Group C def Group C = 1.5 Points

Group A lose to Group A = -3 Points
Group A lose to Group B = -4 Points
Group A lose to Group C = -5 Points

Group B lose to Group A = -1.5 Points
Group B lose to Group B = -2 Points
Group B lose to Group C = -3 Point

Group C lose to Group A = -0.5 Points
Group C lose to Group B = -1 Points
Group C lose to Group C = -1.5 Points

Also, a draw between two teams in the same group = 1 Point
A draw between Team A and Team B or Team B and Team C = Higher ranked side gets 0.5 points, Lower ranked side gets 1.5 points
A draw between Team A and Team C = Team A gets 0.25 points, Team C gets 2 points

Recency Bias
Points are multiplied by a higher amount for more recent seasons, to give a more reflective form rating:

2015 x1
2016 x2
2017 x3
2018 x4
2019 x5
2020 x6
2021 x7
2022 x8
2023 x9
2024 x10

Frequency of playing
Teams that play more games deserve to be rewarded, irrespective of the result, so teams will get 1 point for every match they've played in the last 10 years.

Strength of Opposition
Following on from the previous metric, teams will be awarded points based on the Group that their opponent falls in:
Number of Games v Group A = x4
Number of Games v Group B = x2
Number of Games v Group C = x1

So with all of that explained, here are the International Rugby League Rankings, mathematically speaking, as at the end of the 2024 season:

1. 775.5 - Australia
2. 700.5 - England
3. 496 - New Zealand
4. 347 - Papua New Guinea
5. 303.5 - Fiji
6. 290 - Netherlands
7. 283.5 - Ireland
8. 273 - Lebanon
9. 256 - Tonga
10. 239.5 - France
11. 233 - Samoa
12. 221.5 - Wales
13. 199.5 - Canada
14. 196.5 - Italy
15. 196 - USA
16. 191 - Serbia
17. 157 - Ukraine
18. 143.5 - Malta
19. 119 - Philippines
20. 116 - Cook Islands
21. 115 - Germany
22. 113.5 - Greece
23. 113.5 - Czech Republic
24. 108.5 - South Africa
25. 105.5 - Niue
26. 101 - Chile
27. 100 - Turkiye
28. 97 - Nigeria
29. 85.5 - Scotland
30. 85.5 - Brazil
31. 81 - Hungary
32. 81 - Japan
33. 80.5 - Belgium
34. 78.5 - Poland
35. 76 - Norway
36. 72.5 - Spain
37. 72 - Sweden
38. 70 - Russia
39. 67.5 - Thailand
40. 66.5 - Solomon Islands
41. 62.5 - Jamaica
42. 62 - Argentina
43. 59.5 - Denmark
44. 59.5 - India
45. 58 - Ghana
46. 56 - Burundi
47. 56 - Democratic Republic of Congo
48. 54 - Morocco
49. 52.5 - Peru
50. 51 - El Salvador
51. 50.5 - Latvia
52. 48.5 - Vanuatu
53. 46 - Bosnia & Herzegovina
54. 39.5 - Uruguay
55. 37 - Albania
56. 32 - Kenya
57. 32 - Montenegro
58. 26.5 - Hong Kong
59. 25 - Bulgaria
60. 19 - Cameroon
61. 18.5 - North Macedonia
62. 16.5 - Colombia
63. 0 - Estonia

The end of every year could see a modification to this system, whereby the top 10 ranked sides become Group A for the upcoming year, The next 10 become Group B etc

Have World Cups every 4 years and Emerging Nations World Cups every 4 years, but 2 years after each World Cup.

The top 20 teams in the 2 years before each World Cup will compete for the 12 spots in each World Cup.

Teams ranked 21-40 compete for the 12 spots in each Emerging Nations World Cup which means it is possible for Emerging Nations sides to qualify for the World Cup.

Obviously a hose of other purposeful tournaments could also take place, such as the Pacific Cup (but run with 2 groups and then a final between the top side in each group), a European Cup (same system as the Pacific Cup mentioned above) and possibly even an AAA Cup (America's, Asia and Africa)

If we can have a meaningful calendar where all games mean something and have the potential to make teams climb up the rankings towards a potential World Cup berth, that would make for a much more captivating International Calendar.

Friday, 25 December 2020

Rugby League Podcasts (2020)

 

Never before have fans been able to get their voices heard as much as they do right now and this is largely due to the explosion of podcasts. Fans can now literally speak directly to an entire sports fanbase and share their views, their knowledge and their experiences about the game they love.

As at the end of the 2020 season there were well over 100 active Rugby League podcasts around the World and that number will continue to grow.

Here is a list of all of those podcasts, along with the link to their show and the Twitter account for each show (where possible). If you know of a podcast that isn't on this list, please let me know by leaving a comment at the end of this article.

This list will be updated in time and grouped to make it an even better and more useful list, because there are many different types of podcasts in this list, ranging from Fantasy Sport, Super Coach, History, Opinions, comedy, Interviews, club specific and even country specific. Many of these podcasts also fit into more than one of these categories.

This list also has avoided adding mainstream media podcasts, as they can promote their shows to the entire Rugby League audience very easily and frequently. This list comprises of independent content creators only.

If you love any of these podcasts, please share around links to their shows via social media and get in touch with them on Twitter. The more we share around these podcasts, the more we enhance the voice of the fans over the voice of the media, and that is of great significance.

Thank You and Enjoy!



Podcast name Twitter Handle Podcast link
10 In The Bin @ask10inthebin https://open.spotify.com/show/4xsndA04hNlrrvUYZ6pfu3
13 Pro Am @13Pro_Am https://www.spreaker.com/show/13-pro-am-st-helens-rugby-league
257 Collective @kalyn_ponga https://player.whooshkaa.com/shows/257collective
3 Blokes and a Rugby League Podcast @ThreeBlokesRL https://open.spotify.com/show/6Pu49GitifRa6UXA5vF2nX?si=zivcY_RDQrS2FG2vAHJIGQ
7 Tackle Set @7tackleset https://open.spotify.com/show/2oon3BtNv9DZlGAlyKBb94
Andy Raymond #Unfiltered @TheAndyRaymond https://www.andyraymondunfiltered.com.au/
Armchair Champions @Armchairchampi2 https://armchairchampions.com.au/
Balls Out No Flops @ballsoutnoflops https://anchor.fm/ballsoutnoflops
Bats and Balls Podcast @batsandballspod https://batsandballspodcast.libsyn.com/
Behind The Athlete @behind_athlete https://anchor.fm/behindtheathlete
Behind The Limelight @nick_rysk https://player.whooshkaa.com/shows/behind-the-limelight
Bloke In A Bar @DenanKemp https://open.spotify.com/show/1GS73KTOx9EN6swLGxNqC2?si=02GbWdLPT8iCPSyTSJMdIg
Bludging On The Blindside @hg_nelson https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/roy-and-hg-bludging-on-the-blindside/id1506120132
Broncos Weekly @broncosweekly https://play.acast.com/s/broncos-weekly/
Bulldogs Fans Podcast @NRLBulldogsFans https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/nrl-bulldogs-fans-podcast/id1473561669
By The Balls @BytheBalls2 https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/by-the-balls/id1392281329?mt=2
Chasing Kangaroos @chasingroospod https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/chasing-kangaroos-an-international-rugby-league-podcast/id144188
Cowboys Chat @nqchat https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/cowboys-chat/id1296617178?mt=2
Devil In The Detail @ditdsrd https://soundcloud.com/devil-in-the-detail-srd
Fergo and The Freak @FergoFreakPod http://www.fergoandthefreak.com/
Fifth And Last Podcast @fifthnlast https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/fifth-and-last-nrl-podcast/id603375050
Fins Up @SharksObsessed https://anchor.fm/fins-up
Fire Up! (FBI Radio) @Fireupnrl https://fbiradio.com/podcast/fire-up/
Fonzie Talks Warriors @fonzieswarriors https://www.buzzsprout.com/888331
Forty20 Rugby League Podcast @Forty20LIVE https://forty20rl.podbean.com/
Full Credit To The Boys @fcttb_podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/full-credit-to-the-boys-podcast/id948010217
Get The Edge @Haydenknowles https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/get-the-edge-with-hayden-knowles/id1455980304
Give Us A Spell @GiveUsASpellPod https://player.whooshkaa.com/shows/give-us-a-spell
Green Machine Podcast @GreenMachinePod https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-green-machine/id1079773478?mt=2
Hello Sport Podcast @HelloSportPod https://www.hellosport.com.au/
How Good Is Rugby League @howgoodisRL https://open.spotify.com/show/5YAQenQZfuFYcWNC8LoXDN?si=IIRdz-OmTa-N44DsqeYhiA
Howlin' Hour @howlinhour https://thehowlinhour.podbean.com/
Hull FC Fanzine @hullfcfanzine http://upthecream.co.uk/
Hyper-Thetic-RL Podcast @HypertheticRL https://open.spotify.com/show/2pv5LfNwgIvKZtxUAZPuF0
Ladies Who League @LadiesWhoLeague https://ladieswho.com.au/podcasts/
League By The Fireplace @leaguebythefire http://leaguebythefireplace.com/
Leaguel Counsel @Leaguel_Counsel https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/leaguel-counsel-rugby-league/id1206313978
League Legacy
https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/league-legacy/id1526018440
League Outlaws @LeagueOutlaws https://www.youtube.com/c/PunkturedMedia
Little Rugby League Podcast @littleRLpodcast https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/little-rugby-league/id1518527619
Loiners View @loinersview https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/loiners-view/id1510011512
Mac Sports Radio @mac_sportsradio http://www.macarthursportsradio.com/
Mike And Savs Show @mikeandsavsshow https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/mike-savs-show-nrl-supercoach-podcast/id1450748388
Not The Footy Show @notthefootyshow http://notthefootyshow.ashleymorrisonmedia.com/
NRL Boom Rookies @NRLBoomRookies https://play.acast.com/s/nrl-boom-rookies
NRL CEO Fantasy Podcast @Fantasy_NRLCEO http://www.nrlceo.com/
NRL Super Coach All Stars @NRL_SC_Allstars https://soundcloud.com/user-852095563
NRL Supercoach Champions @NRLSC_Champions https://linktr.ee/SuperCoachChampions
NRL Supercoach Talk @NRLSCTalk https://www.nrlsupercoachtalk.com/
Oh Errol! @oherrol https://www.oherrol.com/
On The Ranch @XRBob https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/on-the-ranch-nq-cowboys/id1456256251
Outta Their League @otlfantasyrl https://outtatheirleague.com.au/
Out of Touch Podcast
https://open.spotify.com/show/7w4TlVz5fEf6RMVvGaOLDb
Outlawed Rugby League Podcast @OutlawedRLP https://open.spotify.com/show/2duIe9nz1RU1oYx0JrgjRu
Parra Podcast @ParraPodcast https://soundcloud.com/parrapodcast
Rabbitohs Radio @RabbitohsRadio https://rabbitohsradio.com.au/listen/
Raiders Review with Blake and The Pork @blakeandthepork https://soundcloud.com/blake-budak
Red V Podcast @RedVPodcast1 https://redvpodcast.podbean.com/
Roosters Radio @RoostersRadio https://player.whooshkaa.com/roosters-radio
Rugby League Cemetery @SchlossysShoe https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-rugby-league-cemetery/id1507580613
Rugby League Digest @leaguedigest https://www.theleaguedigest.com/
Rugby League From The Nosebleeds @Mr_Adamou https://linktr.ee/rl.from.the.nosebleeds
Rugby League Guru @RL_Guru https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/rugby-league-guru-podcast/id1499255585
Rugby League In America @PodcastRla https://soundcloud.com/rugbyleagueinamerica
Rugby League Republic @rl_republic http://rlrepublic.com/
Rugby League: That’s The Way It Was @planetrex01 http://aviewfromthehill.com.au/
Rugby Reloaded @rugbyreloaded http://www.rugbyreloaded.com/
Searching For Corey Parker @SearchingCorey https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/searching-for-corey-parker-a-supercoach-podcast/id1496338695
Set Restart @SetRestartRL https://open.spotify.com/show/3sXugzlijD03RW7aWzvPcA?si=xZ62xmp0SS68g7ATp5D2yw
SharkCast Radio @sharkcastpod https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/sharkcast-radio-cronulla-sharks-nrl-podcast/id1038411132
Six Again @BroncosSixAgain https://soundcloud.com/user-595221922
Spillas Sport Show
https://spillassportsshow.com.au/
Sports Best Friends @SportsBFs https://anchor.fm/sbfs
Super Coach Playbook @scplaybook1 https://www.scplaybook.com.au/category/podcast/
Super League Pod @SuperLeaguePod https://www.spreaker.com/show/super-league-pod
Supercoach 360 @360Supercoach https://player.whooshkaa.com/supercoach-360
Sweet And Soward @sweetandsoward https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/sweet-and-soward/id1495754517
Take The Two @TheTakeTwoPod33 https://open.spotify.com/show/5TXlOcWzMNGIXBOkiCV3vN
Talking with TK @tristan_knell https://www.talkingwithtk.com/
The Advantage Line @line_advantage https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-advantage-line-tab-podcasts-suHTfgiZpUh/
The Barry Harden-Upman Rugby League Podcast @TheBHU_NRL https://thebhurlpodcast.libsyn.com/
The Benchwarmers @TheBWLive http://www.thebwlive.com/
The Cumberland Throw @EelsTCT https://thecumberlandthrow.com/
The Double Movement @doublemovement1 https://player.whooshkaa.com/shows/the-double-movement
The Fend @thefendhj https://www.buzzsprout.com/1174007
The Final Hooter @TheFinalHooter https://open.spotify.com/show/4PkqWBlRDHfg83sH0RBHNq
The Front Office @ramy_haidar https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-front-office/id1518751414
The Graveyard Shift @TheGraveyardSh7 https://soundcloud.com/user-987589763
The Greenhouse Podcast @TheGHRaiders http://www.rugbyleaguepodcastingnetwork.com/author/the-green-house/
The Joust @thejoust1988 https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-joust-nrl-podcast/id1223831347
The Out On Their Feet Fantasy Podcast @outontheirfeet https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/out-on-their-feet/id1502402408
The Parra Cave @ParraCave https://player.whooshkaa.com/the-parra-cave-podcast
The Pride Of Vermont Podcast @pride_podcast https://open.spotify.com/show/4KehxCey69yjk9mmiM3KvI
The Progressive Rugby League Podcast @ProgRugbyLeague https://player.whooshkaa.com/shows/the-progressive-rugby-league-podcast
The Rugby League Apologists
https://www.therugbyleagueapologists.com/
The Rugby League Europe Podcast @TheRLEPodcast https://open.spotify.com/show/6GNJnnChErLj5B6pGAg70D?si=8XCtkOeLQHqcuZPcjDmMcA
The Screaming Eagles Podcast @screamingeagle_ https://soundcloud.com/thescreamingeagles
The Starting Bloc @thestartingbloc https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/thestartingbloc/id1187511192
The Take @MasonsTake https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-take-with-willie-mason/id1499743238
The Voluntary Tackle @voluntarytackle http://thevoluntarytackle.podbean.com/
The Waterboys @TheWaterboysNRL https://player.whooshkaa.com/shows/the-water-boys-nrl-podcast
This Warriors Life @thiswarriorslyf https://thiswarriorslife.com/
This Week In League @TWiLeague http://thisweekinleague.com/
Top Of The Props @woodward_curtis https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/top-of-the-props/id1503092224
Total Rugby League Podcast @leagueexpress https://www.totalrl.com/
Try Time Podcast @TryTimePodcast https://player.whooshkaa.com/shows/try-time-podcast
Trypod Betting @trypod_betting https://www.trypodbetting.com/podcast/
View From The East Stand
https://www.buzzsprout.com/58844
Wests Life Podcast @WestsLifePod https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/westslife-podcast/id1455927054
Wests Tigers Podcast @PodcastWests https://weststigerspodcast.com.au/
What Would Brian Bevan Say? @WhatBevan https://audioboom.com/channels/4949591
Whippets & Flat Caps @whippetsRL http://whippetsandflatcaps.podbean.com/
White Line Fever @therealsteavis https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/white-line-fever/id494213902
Wolfin Around @wolfinaroundto https://soundcloud.com/wolfinaround
Woody And Slugs @woodyandslugs https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/woody-slugs-do-league/id1420294964

Friday, 2 August 2019

LeagueFreak backs calls for Cowboys and Paul Green to go their separate ways

Rugby League expert and podcaster LeagueFreak has backed Andrew Ferguson’s agreeance with Laurie Daley regarding North Queensland coach Paul Green that suggests that he should leave the club that he won a Premiership with back in 2015.

Andrew Webster suggested recently that Green needs a new challenge and a change would benefit both parties.

“You talk to other coaches around the game and Paul Green to me looks like Michael Maguire did in his last couple of seasons at Souths,” Andrew Webster said on radio recently.

“It just seems like he needs a change.”

Former New South Wales State of Origin coach Laurie Daley agreed wholeheartedly with Webster’s suggestion, stating, “I think you are right it just looks as though something is not right up there at the Cowboys."

"Whether it is the players not getting along with the coach or his ideas have gone a little bit stale and they are just not responding. But they need a sharpen-up somewhere and I don’t know where that is going to come from.”

Rugby League historian Andrew Ferguson backed up his recent tweet about Paul Green, after the coach complained about the officiating in their recent loss to the Wests Tigers in Round 20, which has put their finals hopes in jeopardy.




“Green has got Jason Taumalolo in his side among a number of current and past Origin players and cannot get them up into the top 8. And to make matters worse, he blames his inability to get his side to win on the referee’s.”

Star of the podcast Fergo and The Freak, LeagueFreak joined in the discussion to say “I agree with everything you have to say on this issue Andrew. I think his time is just about done.”

“After such a poor season with so many representative players, the club has to look forward with a different coach.”